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LIVE : Inkues kematian Teoh Beng Hock 17/8/09 August 17, 2009

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2.05 pm : Coroner court adjourns inquest for the day, resumes tomorrow with other pathologist and MACC officers.

2.01 pm : Pathologist Dr Khairul released as a witness in Teoh inquest.

1.35 pm : Gobind suggests snapped belt would remain on Teoh if he was held by several by the trouser’s belt rings rather than the belt.

1.20 pm : Dr Khairul says possible Teoh may have been still alive after he fell.

1.10 pm : Malik highlights marks found on Teoh’s hand above wristwatch strap, suggests someone tried to grab his hand when he fell.

1.00 pm : Malik wraps up questioning for Bar Council lawyer Rajpal Singh to take over.

12.57 pm : Dr Khairul also admits he does not know for a fact there was DNA contamination as he had suggested earlier.

12.55 pm : Dr Khairul admits he didn’t personally remove Teoh’s clothings during autopsy, adds gloves were used.

12.50 pm : Coroner’s court told Teoh’s right leg shorter than left leg but Dr Khairul did not measure the difference.

12:49pm Malik Imtiaz put forward a hypothesis; that Teoh was surrounded by individuals – a form of scare tactic – before he fell. When he fell someone grabbed his hand and snapped his wristwatch as the watch is yet to be found.

Malik: Is there a possibility that the scratches on Teoh’s wrist could have been caused by someone who held the wrist with the watch?

Khairul: Yes, there is a possibility

12.45 pm : Coroner’s court told Teoh’s anus was injured. Dr Khairul says very unlikely to have been penetrated before fall.

12.35 pm : Dr Khairul agrees with Malik’s suggestion that Teoh’s skull injury could result from beating before the fall.

12:25am: Dr Khairul says there is a possibility that the injuries on Teoh’s face could have been caused by beating.

12.10 pm : Dr Khairul saying it’s possible Teoh was unconscious when he fell.

12.05 pm : Dr Khairul saying it’s possible Teoh was starving based on autopsy when asked by Malik.

11:47am: To a question by Malik, Dr Khairul says that Teoh was conscious when he fell, based on spasm signs in his left hand. This indicates he had tried to grab something when he fell.

11.33am Court resumes. Khairul takes stand again. Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, representing Selangor government is questioning him.

10.50 am : Coroner’s court breaks for a short recess.

10.40 am : Gobind asks Dr Khairul to explain injuries on Teoh’s body.

10.30 am : The pathologist had noted in his report that Teoh fell feet first before collapsing on his side.

10.28 am : Dr Khairul says fracture in Teoh’s skull came from hiitting head on corner of nearby wall after he fell, to question from Gobind.

10.13 am : Selangor, Bar Council lawyers add their views pushing inquest to test Dr Khairul’s basis for concluding suicide as cause of death.

10:10 am: Dr Khairul complains to Coroner that Gobind is “playing with words”, after persistent questioning by Gobind. Gobind retorts that he asked straight questions five times but did not get straight answers.

10.08 am : Teoh family lawyer questions Dr Khairul why he did not independently interview MACC officers to determine possibility of murder.

10:00am: Gobind says that as Dr Khairul had not interviewed MACC officers, he was not privy to evidence that excluded the possibility of homicide. But Dr Khairul insists that there was no evidence of homicide.

9.56 am : Dr Khairul says he did not ask MACC officers to find out if Teoh was stressed from interrogation – it was police’s duty, not his.

9.54 am : Dr Khairul was aware Teoh was to register marriage the day after MACC interrogation but unaware fiancee was 2 months pregnant.

9.52 am : Dr Khairul says he quizzed Teoh’s elder brother, younger sister & fiancee on psychological background – not prone to suicide.

09:50 am: Gobind asks Dr Khairul why he did not question MACC officers. Dr Khairul responded that it was not his job and he relied on information from the police.

09:40 am: Dr Khairul says he questioned three of Teoh’s family members – brother, younger sister and fiance – to determine if Teoh had any psychological, medical, drug or smoking problem. The family members had told him that Teoh did not have any of those problems.

09:31 am: Dr Khairul agrees with Gobind’s suggestion that a psychological background check on Teoh was important to determine if the cause of death was suicide.

9.15 am : To be updated soon once the broadband is OK

09.00 : Coroner’s court resumes with pathologist Dr Khairul Azman Ibrahim to be questioned on his suicide theory given last week.

The inquest into the death of Teoh Beng Hock enters its ninth day.

Teoh, 30, who was political secretary to Selangor executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah, was found dead on July 16 on the fifth floor corridor of Plaza Masalam, after giving a statement in an investigation into alleged abuse of state government funds.

The Coroner is Azmil Mustapha Abas and Tan Hock Chuan is the lawyer appointed by the Government to assist the Coroner.

Gobind Singh Deo is holding a watching brief for Teoh’s family while Malik Imtiaz Sarwar is representing the Selangor government.

Last week wraps up:

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1. Leong Yook Kong - August 17, 2009

Khairul had demonstrated on 14 August 2009 on how TBH jumped from the window sill. I did not see the demonstration done by Khairul, was Khairul in the standing position or squating position?

1. If he was in the standing position, then something is not correct. Assuming that the height of TBH is 1630mm (5 feet 4 inches) and the height of vent is 1500mm (4 feet 11 inches), TBH’s head was higher than the top transom of the window opening by 130mm (5 inches) when in the standing position.

2. If the vent height is 1800mm (5 feet 11 inches), there was a head clearance of 170mm (6 and three quarter inches) when in the standing posistion. We must remember that the window is a top hung window construction (open at a slanting angle) and therefore at the apex the clearance is limited. When the window is opened at an angle of 45 degree, the clearance just above 1630mm is only app. 200mm (roughly about 8 inches). How to jump in the standing position due to the limited clearance?

3. I leave it to you to imagine how a person jumps in a squatting position?

4. Assuming that the window dimension is:-
(a) 750x1500mm high with 6mm thick glazing, the weight of the window is app. 21kg and with 10mm thick glazing, the weight is app. 32 kg.
(b) 750x1800mm high with 6mm thick glazing, the weight of the window is app. 40kg and with 10mm thick glazin, the weight is app. 61kg.

5. For such a large top hung window the restrictor stay (2 bar hinge) can be used as extra support by fitting it below the existing friction stay (4 bar hinge). This has the effect of limiting the opening as well as adding greater stability to the window panel. Was there a restrictor stay in place? Check for screw holes to the vertical members of the outer and inner frame for the answer.

2. nikmj - August 17, 2009

Pathologist admits facts do not support suicide theory
By Debra Chong

SHAH ALAM, Aug 17 — The government pathologist, who last week suggested that a DAP political aide had committed suicide, admitted today in the coroner’s court that he did not find any facts to support his theory.

Dr Khairul Aznam Ibrahim from the Hospital Tengku Ampuan Rahimah (HTAR) in nearby Klang told the inquest into Teoh Beng Hock’s death that he knew the 30-year-old was due to register his marriage the day he was found dead on a 5th-floor landing at Plaza Masalam here, nine floors below the Selangor Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) office.

The senior medical forensic expert had interviewed Teoh’s elder brother and younger sister as well as his 29-year-old teacher fiancée on the same day.

It was so he could find out the deceased’s psychological background and whether there had been any suicidal tendencies or substance abuse.

Khairul said the facts showed that Teoh was not susceptible to suicide.

Teoh’s elder brother told him that the deceased was an “open and talkative person”, the pathologist added.

But Khairul admitted, under intense grilling from Gobind Singh Deo, the lawyer for Teoh’s family, that he did not interview any of the anti-graft officers to check the possibility of a motive for murder, despite knowing that the political secretary to Selangor executive councillor Ean Yong Hian Wah had been subjected to an interrogation before he died.

“That is the duty of the police. Not me,” Khairul replied.

Source : http://themalaysianinsider.com.my/index.php/malaysia/35356-pathologist-admits-facts-do-not-support-suicide-theory

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